Reddit needs to stop this
By - netherite_shears
Yeah this is the exact reason I left r/conspiracy. It has low IQ energy and all of them thought they were “lions” and everyone else were “sheep”. I’m sorry but if being stupid and ignoring science makes you a lion then you can have that, I’ll gladly be a sheep.
God r/conspiracy is loaded with soy
I guess the guy hasn’t heard of India or Brazil
Or the dead people lying in the streets in Columbia ‘cause the morgues and crematoriums can’t keep up…
“America doesn’t have gun violence, *my* family is unaffected!”
Or racism... “no one has ever stopped me from doing something purely because of my skin colour”
If businesses are allowed to enforce their own rules on their property,
Why has nobody stopped me from putting my dick into the ice cream machine at McDonald’s?
That’s cold man. Straight cold.
I knew something was up with that last McPhlurry.
I’ll have what he’s having
Going on that sub is cheating at this point.
r/NoNewNormal is a complete dumpster of anti-mask and similar opinionated idiots.
They pride themselves on being “free thinkers” and fighting “censorship” so they have no excuse to be this ignorant.
The posts like these which make rounds there show how little members of that subreddit deserve access to the internet or a roof over their head where they can stay inside and bitch about how they are being oppressed by the government and how they are being lied to while there are people dying outside because they actually are useful to society but don’t have the same privilege of avoiding the virus.
You have my condolences
Yes this needs to stop.
The privilege/unkindness/ignorance/fear (what else I missin’?) to believe & post this bulls**t… “impoverished” for wearing a mask to take care of our fellow humans.
Poster should sign up for one of those 1-way trips to Mars, please, good riddance.
I do find it funny, how you think you have the right call for the termination of a right of freedom and expression and then proceed to exercise that right by telling them to get off this planet, using a one way ticket to mars as an analogy for committing suicide. Seems a little hypocritical there maybe? The original post was by someone, who by the looks of it, maybe have been expressing their frustration and aggravation over a situation I think we are all pretty frustrated over. I don't agree with a lot of the things the person puts out there, but I also don't agree with you chest puffin and being a bully because someone spoke there mind. It happens to be their right to speak their mind, just like it is yours. I think we all need to remember that cancellation of the right of free speech will lead to termination of many other rights we have, which means if they cancel his then they will cancel yours. I am really sorry this post triggered you so harshly and kind of hope you day got a little bit better at some point in time.
Your right of “freedom” & “expression” doesnt include potentially, selfishly, killing your fellow humans because you refuse to Wear. A. Mask.
You do NOT have the right to yell “Fire!” in a crowded movie theater (when there is no fire). There are limits to our free speech, see?
This is me, now, expressing MY frustration with selfish people, perhaps like you, who cannot do for others during a once-in-a-hundred year public health epidemic.
Thanks for your reply, I hope your day gets better too since I must have triggered You. I hope none of your friends, family or loved ones catch this horrible disease🧡
Well /holup the Pope John Paul II. First I am not triggered at all, I was just making a simple statement that while you feel your post is justified, so did the original post, not poster, feel theirs was also. Then you jumped on the back and not only said yeah, fuck this person, you basically said the person deserved to die, I mean really? That's pretty fucked up. So let me ask you this, if this person went on this rant in public, would you have taken the off change to pick a fight with this person, and maybe go further, because it seems almost like you would have, with your strong point of view against a persons expression. At no point did the person kill someone, say they were going to kill someone, and even at one point asked for empathy asking for man kind to be able to be with their loved ones as they passed, that is really so offensive. I wore my mask, I got vaccinated, I had people who I know who wore their masks and got sick from it, and 2 friends died, do you have that experience? Probably not, because you lack any sort of empathy. While I may not have liked doing it, I did it, so lets get that out of the way, and many many people did the same thing.
Now lets get into the heart of this. Have you ever done anything to put anyone at harm or potentially risk their life, like do you smoke/vap in public (cancer kills), do you eat unhealthy (risk having a heart attack or stroke and kill someone when driving), do you drink and then choose to drive, do you speed, do you txt or make phone calls when driving, had unprotected sex? Just wondering, because all of those things can kill someone also, so maybe your Kingly Horse is not so kingly.
What have you done to not be so selfish, wear a mask and get vaccinated, well fuck guess what, oops so did I, do if I am selfish what does that make you. Did you donate your stim checks to local food banks, no, well we did. Did you keep people employed during covid, probably not, but I did, keep 23 people employed, paid their health care, free time off to do what they needed to do for their friends and families, so before you make an ass out of yourself, maybe look at you before throwing stones at others.
Like I said, previously was not trigger, and still am not, actually sitting here laughing, because there are so many people like you who found themselves in a crisis, you found your bully voice behind the keys, where you can literally go off and tell people to kill themselves, without even knowing them, which is sad. I can't wait for this whole thing to be over so we can go back to being humans again and not assholes, oh wait, some of us have always been humans and others will always be assholes, it's a choice.
0.1% is a small chance if you're betting 10 bucks, but 1 in 1000 people dying is very bad when talking about 7 billion. Plus that statistic applys to hospitals not being overwhelmed
Yes, hard worked doctors letting off steam in an ultra-high stress environment is just proof the pandemic did not really occur...
The sad reality is its actually this person who's scared.
They're scared of the reality of COVID so they downplay it for them self to make less scary.
I don't see the issue?
To address what I believe is the over-arching point of the OP: The whole purpose of lockdowns was to *avoid* a complete catastrophe. To prevent the health system, food system, and other supply chains from breaking down.
Even so, we did see staffing shortages and bed shortages in hospitals in the USA, even in areas famous for their healthcare. I personally know a few otherwise healthy people in their 50s who did die. I think most Americans do at this point. 1 out of every 550 Americans died from COVID this year. I know many other families that had multiple members in hospital for extended periods. All of this is *with* mitigation methods in place, about 70% of the population engaging in social distancing, which epidemic science tells us has limited the death toll to about 1/8 of what it would have been otherwise. And once the hospitals become overloaded, deaths rates from ALL causes soar (as we are seeing elsewhere in the world).
President Trump himself said that we could expect as many as 2 million people to die from this pandemic. But, if we did a good job, we could limit that to 100,000. And the people who we have to thank for *preventing* this from becoming a full-blown disaster are the "sheep" who listened to basic science and took basic measures to protect their fellow Americans.
Is this comment a funni joke or are you actually stupid?
Are you gonna sit in the gallery and throw peanuts with a flase sense of superiority and infallibility or are you gonna explain the actual issue?
“False sense of superiority”
I didn’t have a sense of superiority going into this... but from my experience of mingling with idiots whenever they feel threatened they will say that the other person has a superiority complex or just jealous, or something with the same gist.
Now I certainly do have a sense of superiority in this.
You came into this saying what I said was either a joke or stupid. A pretty unbelievable confidence in the inferiority of my opinion before it's even been discussed. I'd call that a false sense of superiority.
But okay, if you have a sense of superiority now. Please explain what the issue is here.
“What the issue is here”
Literally covid denial?
>Literally covid denial?
They never denied covid exists. Are you sure I'm the dumb one here mate?
They just deny it's a pandemic...
I don't think they're actually denying it's a pandemic. I think they're denying it's on the scale that people would have you think.
E.g. if two guys fight and I say "In a real fight, there would be broken teeth" I'm not denying it was a fight. I'm just saying it's not a full blown fight. If that makes sense.
Okay then, they're denying it's a real pandemic...
The title is literally “in a real pandemic”.
Talking to you is like trying to teach a baby who will refuse to put the square shaped block into square shaped hole
So if I say, 'in a real fight' does that mean I'm denying fists exists?
You can insult all you want if it makes you feel like you're covering your inability to articulate what's actually wrong here.
Your example doesn’t make sense because there is no context. This does because this is an NNN post and it’s pretty obvious they’re talking about covid here.
My insults are obviously on the side to add spice to explaining how this is obviously problematic.
I refuse to believe you’re not a troll now this is groundbreaking levels of stupidity
Yes I’m extra sure that you’re the dumb one here now and you keep digging your hole deeper it’s hilarious
Nice ad hominem. Guessing you're gonna attack me now since you've realised you have nothing to attack my argument with.
The ad hominem and other logical fallacies claim is used correctly 5% of the time on Reddit. By idiots who can’t discern between the logical part of an argument and insults added to be funny.
Thank you for adding yourself to sample space now 🥰
Thank you, I wasn't overly concerned with spelling at the time.
The guy in the post doesn’t realize how fucking lucky he is that nobody he knows or loves has died during this pandemic. He wants to incite an uprising against governments because he doesn’t know how grateful he should be to have a fucking roof over his head and access to the Internet, because if he did, he wouldn’t be using it to spout nonsensical conspiracy bullshit.
I don't see them saying they want to incite an uprising.
So having a house and Internet means your should agree 100% with the government that had little to no hand in giving you those things ( in the US at least)
The OP is typical of the 2A/QA/Murica cult. That somehow because they don’t see the worst of the pandemic’s wrath, it’s not really a pandemic. Which is funny, because most in that group identifies as “Christian.” For a group that demands faith in something that is ultimately unprovable, the facts and data of a real and measurable pandemic are frivolous.
The OP is arrogant and lacks empathy and respect. That’s the issue.
Sounds like you're lumping a lot of people into one group there. Idk, maybe they just think the government shouldn't be interfering in their personal lives, even when a pandemic is currently happening.
Over the past year, your fellow Americans were 30x more likely to kill you via COVID infection than via homicide. I'm sure you wouldn't say that the government shouldn't be "interfering" with homicides.
Further, a basic function of government is to ensure health and safety standards in public areas, so they can remain accessible to all citizens.
>your fellow Americans - Not American
>30x more likely to kill you via COVID infection than via homicide. - They're also probably more likely to contribute to your death by heart disease or cancer then murder you.
>I'm sure you wouldn't say that the government shouldn't be "interfering" with homicides.
>Further, a basic function of government is to ensure health and safety standards in public areas, so they can remain accessible to all citizens.
-Murder is a intentional crime. Dying of covid is a natural death. So you can't really compare since the core function of a government is to protect your property and your rights. Not your health. Or at least, not by threat of violence under the law. The rest is depending on how much you want the government to be involved in day to day life. So not necessarily standardisation/regulation. Even though I personally agree there should be some level of regulation enforced by government as laws are already a form of regulation.
Don't get me wrong. I think it's good that a government intervenes to help defend against a virus. But they should have a mandate beforehand and should not coerce the public. Especially not with force. So doing stuff like forcing businesses to shut and mandating masks in all stores regardless of the owners wishes is just not what I think a government has the right to do. That also applies to stores that mandate masks. It's their right. You can go elsewhere. But if the government mandates it, there is no alternative. At least in that country.
But the virus will then continue to spread among the maskless, meaning we have to stay in lock down even longer. Not to mention it giving the virus a chance to mutate into a variant that can bypass the vaccine.
And it's literally just a mask, we're not asking them to wear hazmat suits here.
And don't get me started on individual rights. My rights end when it infringes on others. Their rights to not wear masks because it's too hard does not trump other people's rights to a safe life without a pandemic.
It will continue to spread. It will continue to mutate. This will not change. I know the virus can do this quicker with less restrictions in place. But this will happen once restrictions are lifted anyway. So it's either deal with it now or live with restrictions forever. You don't have the right to not get sick or even have a safe life. But you have the right to decide what you wear. So by not wearing a mask, you're not infringing on anyone's rights. Unless it's private property and the owner requires you wear one. I think people should wear masks. But I don't think it should be government mandated.
If you're not American, your homicide/COVID deaths rate is probably even more skewed (because of the USA's high murder rate). Your fellow citizens may be 100 or 150 times more likely to kill you via COVID infection than via homicide.
And regardless of the intention, actions that result in someone else's death are actions that result in someone else's death. Heart disease and cancer aren't contagious, and to the extent that others may contribute to them, they are tied to personal choices. Not absolute necessities like buying groceries, or performing home maintenance, or seeking healthcare. One of your rights is the right to life, and one of the functions of government is to prevent other individuals from causing your death. Your liberties end where harm to others begins.
I think that modern conservatives (especially in America) are stuck in a fantasy of Liberty from the 1800s. If this were the 1800s, and you lived on a homestead, spent most of your time on your own property, eating your own food, then yeah a lot of these restrictions would be unnecessary. And hey, if you live that type of life in 2020, these types of restrictions will hardly affect you at all. But that is not how people live today. In the modern era, we are intrinsically connected. And after people leave your store they are going to be walking on the sidewalk, going to the grocer, and going to work.
If the shoe fits…
I’m so sorry you had to deal with the public delusion as such. You literally just rationally spoke and everybody felt compelled to insult you because they couldn’t accept the validity of your point.
It’s pretty obvious you’re in the right here, if everyone wasn’t so focused on masturbating their government sponsored opinion and justifying their irrational fear they might have seen the point you clearly reiterated.
i mean, i do agree that covid is still here but he did make some good points though
Stop what? I mean this is a horrible, dumb ass take, but I'm not happy about people being so caviliar about free speech restrictions.