Availability of Spotify around the World.
By - lindberg16
New zealand on vacation
Vibin' with new Zealand in Brazil
A New Zealand off the Northeastern coast of Brazil would be like paradise^(2)
most cursed timeline for the new zealanders (at least during covid/bolsonaro)
they would just sit on their shores eating popcorns and enjoying the watch of Brazil collapsing and burning like a dumpster fire
Nah mate we'd be like Madagascar in plague inc
>Ma'am, the Brazilians aren't doing anything about Covid
No thanks, I'd rather not have to live in a climate where the air is like a hot soup.
Putting it off the coast of São Paulo or Rio would be much better. The weather is perfect down there
Wow, the climate there is perfect, perpetually warm temperatures with a constant cool oceanic breeze. That is in the coast, in the interior is just dry hell.
I live in the northeastern coast (João Pessoa). Believe me it's hell all year round (95-100F, 80%+ humidity) except for three weeks during 'winter' where it's 24/7 of downpour (and sometimes still hot).
You start sweating as soon as you're out of the shower. Trust me you don't want that.
Well it's obviously all down to preference, but I would hate perpetual warmth. I already see New Zealand as having a close to perfect climate. Not too cold, not too hot. You gotta have balance.
Well, I guess we have very different conceptions of cold and warmth. Some people really wear t-shirts at 10 °C
Over here in NZ.. People are so used to the cold that they build shit houses with no insulation for generations.
If you like to live in a garage with lots of mould.. New Zealand is the place to be.
And we wear shorts, singlets and jandals in winter
It has its upsides. Having a steamy pee and breaking a thin layer of ice is oddly satisfying. Cold means odourless: the carpet may be glued together with spilt Speight's but the place only smells in December/January.
> Some people really wear t-shirts at 10 °C
Just say Canadians
Your describing the UK
> perfect climate
> the UK
It's the same general climate, yeah. Roughly the same thing you'd find in the Pacific Northwest, Southeast Alaska, etc. Temperate oceanic, that's the sweet spot.
Is actually raining right now in the northeast coast of brazil.
A New Zealand near the Rio Grande Rise would be better placed.
Well, I guess you can put fictional countries wherever you want.
Lol, didnt even notice
That's a new one.
When i was younger this is exactly where i pictured new zealand was!!
Confirmation that Alaska doesn’t exist
The Land Bridge is back!
Nope its there! Just hanging oht with Brazil.
lol i saw the other guy saying was in the wrong place so i was looking around the china sea and couldn't find it anywhere and was like "nah it isn't there at alL"
i need to admit i didn't look at brazil while looking for nz lmao
Why not? New Zealand's obvious vacation spot is in Brazil.
LOL at New Zealand randomly chilling beside brazil
Hey, better than NZL being gone overall
Who is u/[deleted] and why are all their comments removed
They nuked their whole account and comments
/u/[deleted] is a troll. They don't say anything bannable but you'll regularly see their comments removed by moderators
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Fun fact: If you logging into your Spotify account and later use a VPN to change country for an example, Venezuela. You will get no ads.
Not all capes wear heroin
That's really interesting! I wonder why.
Venezuela is a failed country they're not going to record ads asking people to subscribe to premium in a place where people can't even afford to eat.
There’s plenty of third world countries that have ads
Venezuela is past that. Tell me another country that has its population invading zoos to eat the animals there because they can't afford to eat.
Where can I read more about this? I’ve never been aware of this before now
North Korean VPN here I go
Ethiopian here can confirm. The only music streaming platform that works is SoundCloud but no one uses it everyone pirates their music from telegram or vidmate or snaptube(apps used to pirate stuff from YouTube)
Similar case in Kenya until very recently. (Around a few months ago it got established)
Just wanted to holler at my fellow africans. Sup dudes
Not an African, but my friend lives in Kenya, so I know about this
Do you know the reason why spotify isn't avaliable
Why is Spotify banned in Ethiopia out of curiosity?
Well, it probably just didn't launch there (yet). You could probably register another country's account with a VPN and use it from Ethiopia, that's how they did it until recently in Russia.
I was using Spotify in Ethiopia two months ago with my USA account with no VPN. Maybe you just can't create new accounts?
Good to know. Going to be in Ethiopia in two weeks for a long layover. My music will be saved on my device since I won’t have access to data
I dont think its banned. Here in my country it only became avalible last year, but before that you could access the website and foreigners could use it for up to 14 days. Its probably unavailible because Spotify hasnt sorted out the local bureaucracy yet
How widespread is internet usage in ethiopia?
15% According to [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Ethiopia)
What about torrents and soulseek?
How do you pirate through Telegram?
I'm guessing via a bot service that rips youtube audio and sends you the file
I really like this New Brazealand east of Brazil
new brazealand flows so nicely
Is that like a new porn site or something?
Like a cool summer brazeeze...
A new American country.
I snorted very loudly coz of this limaaooo
Limaaooo does sound like (Brazilian) Portuguese, lol
Limão literally means lime/lemon in Portuguese so it’s just straight up Portuguese lmao
Thanks, haha ofc! I should've known that ;P
In portuguese it would be Nova Brasilândia lol
How come it’s available in France, but not in French Guyana ?
I just looked it up and it seems like that Spotify is unavailable in French overseas departments. Which is strange considering they are integral parts of the French Republic and have the same laws and regulations when it comes to music labels. It seems the issue is probably geographic and Spotify will probably fix it one day.
Geography would be my guess as well. Spotify has its own data centers in Europe and North America, but they also rely upon Google cloud services to serve other markets (or at least they did a few years ago). When you queue a song, Spotify will pull the file from the closest data center. So your region and the local infrastructure can alter performance.
A lot of people know this, obviously, but I've also run into people who think when you queue a song on Spotify or a video on YouTube, it pulls the data from just one central location rather than regional data centers.
I ran wireshark on spotify for a school project. It used google cdn in Sweden and our impression was that it always used google cdn.
[This](https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/gcp/spotify-chooses-google-cloud-platform-to-power-data-infrastructure) was one of of our sources but in hindsight it isnt super clear whether they transitioned to google for everything.
It works on both the Dutch and French side of Saint Martin
Maybe it works in St Martin, but unlike French Guiana, St Martin isn't a french department but a territory. I'm not really sure if that is the reason why spotify works there but it could be. This [article] (https://pepseeactus.com/pourquoi-il-faut-liberer-spotify-dans-la-caraibes/#:~:text=En%20effet%20la%20cr%C3%A9ation%20d,Guyane%20sont%20des%20d%C3%A9partements%20fran%C3%A7ais.) in French says that it's still not available in overseas departments.
iirc the Dutch side is legally part of the county of the Netherlands so it’s surprising that it doesn’t face the same issue as French Guiana for example
Sorry but you remember incorrectly. It is a part of the kingdom, but as independent country.
By bad thanks for the correction
A similar issue occurs with UK companies when operating in Northern Ireland. Sometimes they miattribute us as being part of the Republic of Ireland which makes for a very embarrassing PR nightmare for them and fury for locals here.
It's weird, their response from a year ago makes it look like it is a bug, but somehow still not fixed...
I wonder if it's something like they have geo-checks to prove people in EU are actually accessing from EU so the IP reads France but it comes through south american cables or what not so spotify interprets that as some sort of anti-TOS VPN or some shit???
I don't know, I couldn't find any data about that.
Shame we can't see the status of French Polynesia, New Caledonia, or Wallis and Futuna for comparison.
Why is Spotify not available in these countries?
Copyright and licensing agreements, probably
In cases like China maybe also censorship of art
Edit: sooooorrry that I am hurting so many people’s feelings (apparently), but China censoring stuff is not some kind of western bullshit opinion. With movies for example it is common practice. (Maybe you saw the video of John Cenas apology on the top page today, who had to apologize for sth he said about Taiwan in order to prevent complications with the publication of the new Fast & Furious in China)
I don't think Spotify is actually blocked in China, I have a few friends who used it over there without a VPN. I guess in this case Spotify is simply not supported rather than outright blocked.
Licensing in China is also complicated. There are also big catalogues exclusively signed to local incumbents. Hard and expensive market to enter that way.
I’m from China. If you have premium it works fine. But basic plan with ads doesn’t work
Yeah no, can confirm went to China in both 2018 and 2019 and it wasn't blocked back then at all.
EDIT: Other user has commented below, it seems to have been banned now
it is banned rn as of 2021 May, just grabbed a friend to confirm
Premium account works though
Yeah you need to sign up and pay premium with a VPN. Basic version no go
Shhh, you're violating the narrative
No, they are just sharing some information. People were questioning why French Guyana had it blocked as well and were speculating.
Sorry, but it is banned now, you can proceed with how Spotify is US imperialism now
Fun fact, Spotify is Swedish
I know that, I am just replying to a guy who post in genzedong
Lol why am I not surprised which subreddit you're apart of
> using tankie phrases to condemn tankies
I sincerely refund your words back to you, liberal.
Tankie is a word used exclusively by total dipshits
Yes I can confirm Spotify was not blocked in china when I was over there, worked pretty good
Well also China doesn't like foreign companies taking value out of their country, so they offer government controlled alternatives to almost everything. Tencent Music is huge with a lot of different services.
They probably have their own copy of Spotify with chinese government behind it...
Spotify has a cross-shareholding in Tencent music IIRC. And Tencent is huge.
Hardly, they just prioritise their own domestic streaming services. That was also the case in Korea until very recently and Spotify being introduced actually caused a handful of issues with the domestic distributors.
China has their own music streaming services that are much better imo, NetEase Music and Tencent Music are the top ones. They are social apps on top of music apps. Lyrics of foreign language songs are translated by fans, can be made into pictures to share, songs can be turned into ringtones based on your own preferences, and people can leave comments on songs to discuss with others. Besides there are a lot of anime songs that I can't find on Spotify but available on the Chinese music apps.
Like most things with the Great Firewall, it's because there is a local Chinese alternative instead. QQ Music is part of Tencent. There is Baidu Music too and loads of others but lots of people just download MP3s still.
It's not censorship, I think that's a bit of an old Iron Curtain view/assumption on China and its media.
Tbh, it is likely that that is the reason for the overwhelming majority of these countries.
Like if you look at which of these countries that are authoratarian regimes, you’ll see tons of them. Iran, myanmar, china, north korea, turkmenistan, syria, etc.
Either that or they’re in an on going civil war like libya, syria, yemen or somalia.
Yeah this is not true. I used Spotify every day in China. The only difference was the ads were blocked, so you get unlimited music for free :)
There’s a bunch of Chinese artists on Spotify too, go check them out
Edit: obviously a lot of people hate China and want to believe things that aren’t true just because it sounds like something China would do. Yea, they block movies and games all the time. But Spotify is not one of them. Is that so hard to handle?
may I ask you how you do that? Cuz I am Chinese and I can't.
The art of censorship.
pulling shit out of your ass, they have their own streaming service
No, look at music163. Maybe don't assume that which you have no experience.
Edit: Upvote wrong info and downvote the dude who has listened to a lot of music in the mainland. Typical Reddit circlejerk.
China doesn't censor western movies, western studios modify their movies for Chinese audiences.
Because if they weren't modified china wouldn't allow them...
Sometimes I think it’s just no reason? It only came to the UAE a few years ago. Everyone relied on iTunes before or they were expats (well everyone is an expat here lmao) and had Spotify accounts before they came here.
In Sudan case, the county was inducted in terrorisim sponsor list and due to some ambitious terrorist attacks in the 90s including Harbouring Osama bin laden for few years before any attacks happened. the US treasureary had economic sanctions imposed as a result all financial transactions were not possible. That led many companies to not offer its services to Sudanese citizens fearing consequences and legal challange as what happened to some French bank that helped in circulating money and got a big fine. But we had a revolution about two years ago that ousted the authoritive religious government and all the sanctions lifted. Even though business are still cautious and too lazy to update their policy. If we want to use such services we will have to contact their legal department and explain the situation, which might takes time.
As far as yemen it could be because internet is shyte and no streaming platform actually works. Government probably figured it would make them look a little better by saying they don't allow it over admitting their internet can't handle it.
Basically China doesn’t like western media
It's not available in Venezuela cuz it might actually make living there a bit more bearable and we can't have that.
What did Spotify do to you, 2 Congos?
That's _DR_ Congo to you, my friend. O_O
Er well, Rep Congo is red, too.
Bringing back the Persian empire, well done Spotify
And a United subcontinent
I swear I remember using Spotify in China in 2019. Did something change?
I was there last year and it worked fine. I imagine it isn't officially supported or something but it still works.
you are allowed to use it anywhere in the world for a few weeks
they understand that people take vacations
after that you have to be back in your country (or just use a VPN once and your vacation time is reset)
I believe that you can use spotify anywhere in the world given that you have a premium subscription. The red countries in the map are those where you can't make a spotify account. Spotify recently came to Pakistan and previously people did use it but they used to share family subscription with some family abroad or something like that
this, officially being available (as in being able to subscribe from that region) is different from being able to use a account from a supported region on an unsupported region.
When someone cites Wikipedia as their source, you know it's not gonna be entirely accurate.
The borders of Spotifystan
Does anyone know when South Korea got Spotify, as it wasn't available when I lived there? Left there late 2016.
Edit: No need to lmgtfy, just checked and it was Feb 2021. Juggernaut move from Spotify as that's quite a tough market to penetrate in certain sectors.
At the start of the year, some Korean artists weren’t internationally available because Spotify and the local Kakao M couldn’t get a deal.
Yeah it is a hard market...netflix made the move as well and as far as I see they are quite succesfull
Yeah I wonder if that is due to Korean companies not being able to replicate Netflix due to licence laws. I noticed when I was there that Uber was shut down quickly and then immediately afterwards KakaoTaxi popped up, so it's almost like their economy is set up to support a kind of "oh great idea, but let's just copy it and keep it regulated and funded internally" philosophy? Makes a lot of sense and I'm surprised more countries don't do this.
Me a Libyan: shit
VPN: I got you bruh
People from NZ loved Brazil so much they brought the entire country to vacation
Yeah we all just wanted to see actual tropical lands and not our shitty sub tropical lands.
I wonder if New Zealand regret getting Spotify..
I need to know about St. Helena! 😂
I doubt they have it. I had to pay a researcher on the island last year and had to wire the money from my bank because they had NO online options. It cost me $30CAD just to do the transfer! Ugh! And the researcher didn’t end up getting new info for me :(
NZ it's about time you came to Brazil
Fun fact: Spotify premium is not available in Quebec (Canada). Spotify's model offers you 1 month free trial then, without action on your part, they will start charging your account monthly. That is illegal in Quebec: if you offer a free trial you must either suspend/revert the service or provide a way to for the user cancel the subscription in advance (think do not renew my subscription button).
Spotify could have chosen to simply not offer the free 1st month but they insist on calling it a free trial so they simply exclude quebec.
new zealand is going to brazil
Spotify actually expanded their services to lot of countries recently, like 2 months ago as I remember. One of them was Georgia which I'm from. Was waiting for it here for a looong time.
Same for Macedonia :D
You can only bless the rains down in half of Africa.
So it’s available in France and all it’s colon— overseas territories but not in Guyane ? 🤣
Don’t use red and green as signatures for thematic maps. It’s a pain for color blind people. Saying this for a friend...
Btw the reason Cubans don't have it is bcs of the US embargo, not bcs of muh evil government.
https://www.spotify.com/rs-en/legal/end-user-agreement/ (look at TOS 15)
Also hard to use considering the internet situation in Cuba
Yeah makes sense
why does french guiana not allow spotify but france does??
It's a mistake it is available (https://support.spotify.com/us/article/where-spotify-is-available/)
And I still have 5 listeners...
Not suprised about China. Just to make sure; tianmen square massacre
As an Iranian, I want to thank VPN providers. 😄
Ok, dumb question. I’ve heard of Spotify. What is it?
It's one of World's largest music streaming program.
Why is spotify not available in French Guiana?
Yeah, Spotify my ass. Can't listen to Joe Rogan in Ukraine FOR SOME FUCKING REASON!
The anti-spotify Persian empire rises!
As someone who lives in New Zealand I can confirm we don't have spotify
With the exception of French Guyana are any of these locations really a big surprise these places are not know for there free speech or civil rights
Afghanistan touching China is funny. Just denying access from the stans to Pakistan and India lol.
Spotify is absolutely available in China.
Positivley surprised that its available in Russia and Belorussia...i would have thought their govermnent would not allow it for reasons of stopping western influence or whatever
They are decently chill with letting western culture in.
It was launched here less than a year ago actually, July 2020. But I think it was mostly Spotify's choice not to expand rather than any restrictions.
Russian government has indeed been on a spree of blocking western apps as of late, but Spotify is mostly music, no politics. So it's less likely to be affected.
That being said, Spotify's podcast module still doesn't work here for some reason. Like I can listen to any music, but can't find Joe Rogan for shit (maybe for the better though)
> That being said, Spotify's podcast module still doesn't work here for some reason. Like I can listen to any music, but can't find Joe Rogan for shit (maybe for the better though)
I suspect this is a conscious choice, to prevent even the remote possibility of requests in Russia for censoring political speech of the podcast library, or at least more active curation of what podcasts of news organizations they promote.
If they stick to just their bread-and-butter asset of their music catalogue in the country that's far less likely to be a problem, as you said.
The podcasts will *probably* come at some point, but if Spotify is going to be required to actively curate it for the Russian government, they might choose not to introduce it instead.
ITT: people acting as if Spotify is the only music streaming app in the world. And without it people around the world have no other way of listening to music.
It is the easiest and cheapest way for a lot of us though, so maybe get off your high horse there.
Edit: and *only* in a lot of cases.
I've used Spotify in China with no issues and no VPN.
Doesn’t work for me in South Korea
Of course NK and PRC don’t allow it. It would allow their people to enjoy that debauchery from the West, and we can’t have that, now can we?
According to many people in this thread, it works fine in China, actually.
So, pretty much authoritarian regimes don’t like Spotify?
I hate extrapolations like these
Cause it's redundant and only serves to affirm already held beliefs. The reasons why there isn't Spotify in China, let's say, are wayy different than 'because the App is a symbol of freedom and China is a vile autocracy'.
That is, it doesn't mean China *isn't* a vile autocracy, but you know.
Cuba for example doesn’t have it because the US won’t allow them.
Banned in all the "people's" or "allah's" countries
Its in Saudi Arabia
Maybe learn about the world before committing to comments like this. Clearly available in most of the Middle East, Turkey, North Africa and even Indonesia